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Dominic

May 16 2011

Pre Premium Questions

Hi... I've trawled and found some of the answers to my questions, some I cant find and any have been discussed but appologise for any duplication. I also note in many instances you give vague answers, Understandably giving timescales then leads to people quoting those. BUT I have certain features I cant move ahead on as my community is already live. So i'd appreciate a ballpark arrival on these future features:

1/ Likes on all actions/activity is imperative (dislikes is a like to have)IE the ability to like any comment etc made.

2/ Image parsing, fetching and sharing ala FB

3/ URL fetching of thumbs/image and snippet of text meta from the url

4/ Photo tagging (rating be an additional nicety)

5/ Fully featured event posting with invite sharing etc. I see this is in the developmental stages but no eta?

6/ Recommended 3rd party developer for Jomsocial migrator. As I understand you have no plans for a Jomsocial migratory tool. Although with JS being so badly supported it really would offer you a distinct advantage IF you developed it, as I personally know plenty of JS users that would leave JS for a better proposition IF they can migrate at least basic user details and some of the base profile information... #anahita #social #networking #engine

James O'Sullivan
James O'Sullivan
May 16 2011 Permalink
Hi Dominic, I would like to jump in on this and say that I too would be very interested in your point 6 about the migration tool and would certainly be interested in parties who need this tool to move away from jomsocial - il definitely need help on this front. On all the other points - I think the roadmap for anahita is very exciting and all those features have been considered. Its a pretty organic process to be honest and the roadmap that I have followed so far has been great. Rastin & Ash definitely really think all aspects through so there may be a little wait on some of these but well worth it in my opinion if the standard is maintained.
Dominic
May 16 2011 Permalink
Maybe we can start a group to share the cost of developing this? Whats your site? And a drummer? whats your style of music?
James O'Sullivan
James O'Sullivan
May 17 2011 Permalink
That could be a good idea, I know the focus on the second quarter of year here is to maintain focus on building on anahita so the porting across of a jomsocial site is not really the focus. I would be interested in how to port across basic profile information such as avatar,name,username,password and also some kind of porting of kunena forum to this discussion board if possible. Obvioulsy if more can be done then great like the connections between people but because the system here is based around the twitter approach of follow and mutual follow and no the friend option then this could be awkward as the logic is not really the same. I am only guessing here really. My site is kenlcommunity.com but my jomsocial site is hosted locally with about 2000 older profiles from jomsocial in this particular instance. Sharing the cost of getting some solid built to do this would be a great idea but not sure the timeline on this as I would like to see how nooku server first goes - or maybe one should migrate content before nooku server is used because joomla will no longer be used at all then!
Dominic
May 17 2011 Permalink
Any info on my other points? Also I cant find anywhere the plans regard PM or emailing when is this feature anticipated or not and how?
Dominic
May 17 2011 Permalink
have I posted this in the correct place as i'd appreciate the info...
@Dominic sorry for the late reply, there are lots of questions on all the groups that needed to be answered. Don't worry about the duplication. We will be having tagging and improved search tools in the upcoming releases that will make it easier to find content.

1. we are implementing voting and ranking APIs in the next release of Anahita Social Engine which will enable us build features such as the LIKE button. that will be versions 1.6 and 1.7 that will be ready this year. Development of 1.6 has already started.

2 and 3. Image parsing with the same level of sophistication that facebook does will take a while, but we will be improving upon posting more atomic media links that point to individual video, image or download files. This feature will be incrementally improved at every release. We have several approaches in mind and we need to experiment with each on Anahitapolis and see which one will work best.

4. tagging is also being developed in the Anahita Social Engine 1.6 and 1.7 it will be slightly different with the traditional folksonomy that you will see on flickr or wordpress. It will very likely be a combination of both. Once we build the APIs, it will be quite simple to add tagging feature to all the story nodes and media nodes (photos, topics, blog posts, etc.)

5. There will be an event app but not right now. Events are basically groups with expiry dates or at least that's what we think they are now. What makes an event valuable is not the group itself per se but all the supporting applications on that profile that help us promote and document an event such as Connect, Blogs, Photos, Discussions, Locations, Tweets, etc. those are still in the making. By the time all the people who are launching their projects using Anahita have thriving communities and their members are deciding to meet in real life we will have all the applications ready to do the events the right way.

6. If you have a dataset that you are willing to share with us, we could have a look and see whether we would want to develop migrators. Maybe we could develop something simple for now and elaborate it a bit more later on. We really don't know what challenges might be ahead. Social Networks are different than Discussion Boards, Blogs, or CMS websites. The relationships could be far more complex, but we can't tell for sure until we have a look and run many tests.
Dominic
May 18 2011 Permalink
Thank-you...we have the ability in our team to develop a migrator, so maybe we can work together...i'd be willing to share, we also have a clone of our live site and be happy for you to have access to that etc...

Whats your eta on 1.6/7 I know thats just a guide and wont hold you to it :)

" other things:
1/ This comment you made I didn't get notified on, thats VERY important that users get notified of all comments to ANY comment's they made OR are participating in... that maybe a setting Ive missed?

2/ Mobile access, is Anahita working in all mobile browsers? smartphone, Android and i-phone? Or does that require an app if so when is it available? For me 1 of the key factors to leaving Jomsocial would be to move forward technologically speaking so my users can access the site on the go....
James O'Sullivan
James O'Sullivan
May 18 2011 Permalink
I would be interested in a simple migrator that would port over username, email, password, avatar - if this could be done at the very least I would be interested in chipping in on the development cost. I know the add friends approach of jomsocial is totally different to anahita follow system so I wouldnt mind if the connection cannot be kept. Onlt other migration I am after is to migrate most of the posts I have in a Kunena forum. Again if 80% of this can be done then great.
"Thank-you...we have the ability in our team to develop a migrator, so maybe we can work together...i'd be willing to share, we also have a clone of our live site and be happy for you to have access to that etc..."

We do need to have real life data to be able to test the migrator. Preferably dataset from 2 or 3 different jomsocial installations. If you are interested we can even sign a confidentiality agreement and look into your data and file assets and start looking into a migrator which can perhaps do a little more than just the basic accounts.

ps: friends can be imported as mutual relations on Anahita. That is not a problem.

"Whats your eta on 1.6/7 I know thats just a guide and wont hold you to it :)"

Our goal is to have 1.6 ready in 3 months. I can't tell about 1.7. It really depends how 1.6 goes. There are some fundamental updates and changes in the new release that will make the development of new generation of anahita social apps possible.

"1/ This comment you made I didn't get notified on, thats VERY important that users get notified of all comments to ANY comment's they made OR are participating in... that maybe a setting Ive missed?"

Are you getting all the other notifications from the Atrium? Let's watch and see if this issue persist.

"2/ Mobile access, is Anahita working in all mobile browsers? smartphone, Android and i-phone? Or does that require an app if so when is it available? For me 1 of the key factors to leaving Jomsocial would be to move forward technologically speaking so my users can access the site on the go "

I'm afraid no. We will make Anahita mobile accessible before the end of 2011 at least in the generic form. We are also considering a SDK for developing Anahita specific iOS apps. This is not going to happen overnight. Anahita will perhaps be the first solution in market with a decent infrastructure to do iOS and social web integration.
James O'Sullivan
James O'Sullivan
May 19 2011 Permalink
I could certainly chip in with a dataset also and if the mutual relationships can be maintained that is a massive bonus. I would love to port over a full dataset from a jomsocial site maybe around the time of anahita 1.6 if it were possible.
@Rastin I might be able to provide JomSocial data too from a 35,000 strong community, on a confidential basis.
James O'Sullivan
James O'Sullivan
May 19 2011 Permalink
Mine would be roughly 6500 if it makes any difference and its pretty active I guess so lots of mutual friendships etc.
I'm not interested in migrating from JomSocial to Anahita at the moment, but I am more than sure this will be needed in the future so I am happy to contribute towards it.
@James @Julio we are interested to use your installations and develop a JomSocial to Anahita migration tool. The reality is that we have lost count of requests for a migration tool long time ago. We can sign a mutual NDA to keep the confidentiality issues taken care of on paper. I think we will start with @James first if he is ok, then we can test the results with @Julio's code/data set.
Sure Rastin - email me julio@bigspring.co.uk when you want to do it. I will seek permission from my client, but I think it'll be ok if we sort an NDA and maybe remove / encode one or two fields.

Our data set has friendships, and even paid subscriptions (via AEC) dating back at least 4 years. This could come in very useful indeed.
James O'Sullivan
James O'Sullivan
May 23 2011 Permalink
Hi Rastin, this is fine with me. I should be able to give you full access to a backup of my live jomsocial website so you can fully mess around with it if needed. I will prepare an email for you with everything you need to gain access to the environment database and so on. Now to get my hands on an NDA :) let me know if you need any more information.
Dominic
May 23 2011 Permalink
Im not sure if I posted this as these threads are difficult to follow. For us rather than migrating all user accounts in one hit we'd like the user to choose. Son the fist time they login in to our new Anahita site version they would be prompted/asked to migrate settings and avatar etc. This way we'd then only be importing valid/used accounts and the old wood can be cleared out also clearing the amount of data on the server thats no longer required for the new build...

To further protract my site our images are via the joomla component Simgallery and not within Jomsocial :(

As i mentioned earlier we can give you access to a site clone with exact copies of the entire site and DB for you to play with...
I agree with @Dominic, it is better that people migrate by choice rather than the login one morning and see that everything has changed. They will go into a shock that way. I think account migrations are better done if we are resurrecting a dormant community or there has been a majority agreement in the community to migrate.

- Simgallery hah! need to look into that.

Dominic that sounds good. We can sign a non disclosure agreement together so the legal issues are covered.

Thank you @all for offering data and help. This means a lot to us. In fact building building migration tools would have been impossible unless our community members would offer to provide real life data and different case scenarios for testing the migration tool.

As soon as Ash and I are done with our current milestones, we will contact you so we can at least start looking into developing a strategy on helping your members move to an Anahita powered platform.
Dominic
May 31 2011 Permalink
Great put me down.... contact time...are we talking weeks a month 3 months?
Unfortunately I can't give you a time. What we put here are goals not promises, that is because a lot of development that we do here is happening for the first time and there are no previous references for us to make accurate time/cost estimates based on. That is why we recommend people to build with what is already in place and be reasonable about the future goals and features that we will be delivering. We don't want to be responsible for our members project deadlines. It would be impossible if we tried to do so.

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